Saturday, October 18, 2008

Julian and Maddalo Revisited

The irony of Julian and Maddalo (Shelley and Byron) riding in the Venetian marshes:

From Jude Morgan's Passion:

They buried her on the salt beach beyond the lagoon.

Shelley and Mary Shelley's infant daughter Clara, three weeks old.

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Blogger Devil Mood said...

I wonder how different the experience of reading the book would have been if I had known more about these characters first. Or was it even better that I didn't?
Different, for sure.

4:44 PM  
Blogger murat11 said...

I don't think anything is missed by coming to these characters fresh. My previous "knowledge" of them was miniscule and sadly ill-informed. Having meditated on Julian and Maddalo a while back just hit me hard when little Clara dies. Shelley strikes me as one very much in his head (though a Leo, I think, very Aquarian in that headiness: a crusader for humankind, but also removed from them, too, if I get Liz G right), disconnected: Julian and Maddalo just took on yet another layer with the bloom of his daughter's death in the air of his rides with Byron/Maddalo.

A wonderful book. Thanks for that recommendation, too.

7:03 PM  
Blogger Devil Mood said...

I agree, I saw Shelley pretty much as a 'man of the world', living inside his head, completely idealistic and obviously unpractical - very Aquarian.

7:08 AM  
Blogger murat11 said...

DM: I should have added that I know the Shelley profile well, since I am an Aquarius Rising. Thank goodness for the Scorpio sun, though it, of course, has its challenges, too.

7:16 AM  
Blogger Devil Mood said...

Oh really? ;)

7:19 AM  
Blogger murat11 said...

DM: I can't figure out if that "Oh really" is like, "Really, I didn't know that," or the more ironic, "Well, of course you are; it's quite obvious." Assuming, hoping, for the first choice, I'll say that in my younger years, I think the ascendant was MUCH more obvious. There's no hope for me if you meant the second choice, though one person who ran my chart, once came up with Pisces Rising. I just ran it again at Astrodienst, and Aquarius it is.

7:33 AM  
Blogger Devil Mood said...

hehe No, it was the 1st kind of 'oh really?' - it's interesting to know. It's even more interesting to me because you're not the only blogger I know with that Scorpio/Aquarius combination.

7:42 AM  
Blogger murat11 said...

DM: Thank goodness. I think. :-D

7:49 AM  
Blogger San said...

That's a wistful image you've chosen to accompany the little excerpt.

And the dialog between you and DM is very interesting. Shelley was a Leo, huh?

8:05 AM  
Blogger murat11 said...

San: It's been a good read, this Passion, by Jude Morgan. Shelley, Leo-born on August 4, does not come off very well in relation to eventual wife Mary, though I've been trying to find my way through his poetic thickets, since our old friend Mr. Bloom made his early rep while resurrecting PBS from the dismissals of Eliot, Auden, et. al. I never dismissed, I was just less interested in the Romantics; more interested in the moderns and posts.

Infant Clara Shelley buried in the salt marshes outside Venice; the image, I hoped, captured some of the haunting of that space in Mary's and Shelley's lives.

11:08 AM  

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